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Surivival Servers and Maps [Poll]

Survival Servers and Maps   

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  1. 1. How many servers you think does Survival need each region?

    • 2
      22
    • 3
      25
    • 4
      43
  2. 2. Which maps should be in Survival officials?

    • Colorado V1
      40
    • Colorado
      42
    • Oregon
      30
    • Caliwood (WiP)
      43
    • Cliffside (PVP)
      10


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Hello community,

After receiving some feedback from players on all our socials, we decided to bring this decision to you guys again.

Part of the community feels that right now the amount of maps is an issue in Survival and it is hurting its growth, so please vote on your favorite option. 

Right now, we feel that the Survival community has its growth halted due to this variety since players are always split on different maps, rather than only different servers and we feel this would be beneficial for everyone to play against everyone. 

We will keep the maps as you vote and voting on the second poll will define which maps are kept, based on popularity. 

Also keep in mind, we are collecting feedback from the community and trying to add some to each patch if possible.

http://forums.fredaikis.com/index.php?/topic/7743-feedback-and-improvements-for-survival-mode/

 

The vote will get closed on the 17th of July, 2019 CEST.

Regards,

//The New Z Staff

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When I started playing this game, there were  10 servers for each region. It was a blast and there were a lot of players. With each trim down in servers, there were less players like myself who just wanted to play by ourselves and survive the random killers. We could meet others and play as a group and give advice and teach, now it is just a lame game of the long term players manipulating the game for a turkey shoot. I have rented private servers 8 times for myself, some a week, some for 3 months at a time. I have a few weeks left on my last rental server and then I will quit this game. It is no longer fun, even open world is better than survival as it is no longer survival. Who wants to run around 45 minutes and find NOTHING because the loot has been reduced, just to be shot by those camping at the same old spots. If you want to fight, go to open world or those other formats. Just sick of it all. Thanks for the survival game of the past as I had so much fun. Hopefully I can find a similar steam game.

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23 minutes ago, Hobocus said:

When I started playing this game, there were  10 servers for each region. It was a blast and there were a lot of players. With each trim down in servers, there were less players like myself who just wanted to play by ourselves and survive the random killers. We could meet others and play as a group and give advice and teach, now it is just a lame game of the long term players manipulating the game for a turkey shoot. I have rented private servers 8 times for myself, some a week, some for 3 months at a time. I have a few weeks left on my last rental server and then I will quit this game. It is no longer fun, even open world is better than survival as it is no longer survival. Who wants to run around 45 minutes and find NOTHING because the loot has been reduced, just to be shot by those camping at the same old spots. If you want to fight, go to open world or those other formats. Just sick of it all. Thanks for the survival game of the past as I had so much fun. Hopefully I can find a similar steam game.

Thanks for your honest feedback.

Server got decreased because fewer players and player would just split everywhere which is also increasing the server performance overall.

About the loot. Survival should have less loot and really hard to find stuff actually. Items aren't easy to find like in Open World. So you can not say you wanna play Survival but also you don't like the rare loot.

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@Steve i know so much players who wait Caliwood , old classical Caliwood in the survival game mode. Players tired of colorado campos rocky small... Weekend event be  maked Cliffside in the survival and ??  nothing dont play in the Cliffsida map.  I suggest to  get 4 servers 1 Colorado v1 , 1 Colorado v2 , 1 Oregon , 1 MAP CALIWWOOD and we have see where ppl prefered to join.

 

 

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There are already 4 Servers on most regions besides EU. Why do you make a poll if you give the oppurtunity to vote for 4 servers, but then you are saying many people think there are to many servers. It doesnt make sense to me. Lets face the fact that this community is small and its already split up in 3 other modes. By adding 4 servers you will have the same thing as it is now and especially having 4 maps is just ridiculous. Lets divide by 3 modes 4 servers and 4 maps. I think having 3 servers with 1 Pve and the other 2 pvp is a great solution. By that you get an overview who is actually farming and who is pvping. The maps should be rotated every 2 weeks, so that everyone gets there satisfaction and have different experiences every 2 weeks when it comes to pvp.

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In my Opinion to get the Old ISS Feeling back, we Need a Cliffside sever, with that tool to craft wooden walls or Stone walls, get us a Safezone on the cliffside sever back, on that Big City, Sven.. I really miss Cliffside and I was sooo happy that it was into the Event last week+

 

Pleas bring back atleast 1 Cliffside sever!!!

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43 minutes ago, Keymbo said:

In my Opinion to get the Old ISS Feeling back, we Need a Cliffside sever, with that tool to craft wooden walls or Stone walls, get us a Safezone on the cliffside sever back, on that Big City, Sven.. I really miss Cliffside and I was sooo happy that it was into the Event last week+

 

Pleas bring back atleast 1 Cliffside sever!!!

Cliffside is at the top, so you can vote but Safezone won't be there otherwise people just change map to stash.

2 hours ago, IamBananaJoe said:

There are already 4 Servers on most regions besides EU. Why do you make a poll if you give the oppurtunity to vote for 4 servers, but then you are saying many people think there are to many servers. It doesnt make sense to me. Lets face the fact that this community is small and its already split up in 3 other modes. By adding 4 servers you will have the same thing as it is now and especially having 4 maps is just ridiculous. Lets divide by 3 modes 4 servers and 4 maps. I think having 3 servers with 1 Pve and the other 2 pvp is a great solution. By that you get an overview who is actually farming and who is pvping. The maps should be rotated every 2 weeks, so that everyone gets there satisfaction and have different experiences every 2 weeks when it comes to pvp.

Especially we ask what the community want. Do they want 4 maps? Sure let's go for it. Rotation won't work because mainly of the lockers which are placed and we do not transfer them back in the players GI every time for free.

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47 minutes ago, Steve said:

Cliffside is at the top, so you can vote but Safezone won't be there otherwise people just change map to stash.

Especially we ask what the community want. Do they want 4 maps? Sure let's go for it. Rotation won't work because mainly of the lockers which are placed and we do not transfer them back in the players GI every time for free.

Ok, sure well I still hope cliffside will get into the map pool I just love it

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Listen, as a Professional Game Tester (not this game, but many others..I invested into this new beta to help improve the overall game). There is GOING TO COME A POINT, when Open World PVP, PVE & COOP play styles WILL be merged to one (1) SERVER MAP as separate play zone. and you will walk from one play zone to another (no longer needing to login/exit servers to do so). This is the trend of MMO's especially sandbox Battle Royales (like this one)..THEY ARE ALREADY DOING THIS WITH CLIFFSIDE TEST SERVERS (notice one side is PVE the other PVP?? anyone??)....at some point the DEVS will CONSOLIDATE again to improve server numbers, and decrease costs. Battle Poyale and survival are pure PVP and should/will stay separate...but EXPECT THIS TO HAPPEN EVENTUALLY. BECAUSE IT WILL. It sounds like this community  is having a hard time growing & adapting to the MARKET...we're at a pivitol point in gaming, where the players have "overplayed their hands" with developers.  We have to regroup and HELP THESE DEVS RISE OVER IT. 

I ALREADY know what mechanics are creating the NEGATIVE PLAY you are already concerned from other players in SOLO Open World Formats....its the MISSION CONTRACTS. There is NOT ENOUGH ENDGAME COOPERATION Missions. When and "End Gamer/ VET" has exhausted all the games basic missions, all that is left is PVP KILL MISSIONS (to gain specialist coins) This is what is driving the negative mechanics in open world.... The Game starts you with mission for PVE and end INTO PVP...It should be the other way around. instead of end game contracts that require 50+ player kills, it should start out with SINGLE KILL PVP contracts & WORK UP to "end game Cooperation Contracts." The game should teach you about Survival FROM a SOLO, into GROUP, its the opposite. To go from being a ruthless survivalist, to being an "IN GAME" asset, of younger players. Veteran players would be MORE OPT to give gear and helpnew players, if the END GAME MISSION MECHANICS required this. It also gives power to your endgame/veteran players. as they can choose WHOME to help...if a players reputation is bad, they can choose to NOT help.... and they can do it from anywhere on the map, after all END GAME PLAYERS, should be experienced enough to handle combat of new players, and know where the PVE zones are... It gives them the power to also control behavior "in game." if a player is on the pvp side causing problems... Veterans can group the map together, migrate to the PVE side, set up a plan, and teach the ""toxic player" a lesson.. it takes the pressure OFF THE DEVS and gives the power to the polayers to control the social aspect.  When a solo player pisses too many ppl off on a server, he will be chased OFF IT until he learns to play with others.... if not, there is the PURE PVP map servers in SURVIVAL MODE & BATLE ROYALE for this kind of behavior.

It doesn't MATTER HOW MANY SERVERS you have, if the PLAYER NUMBERS DO NOT correlate with cost, all that is going to do is sink this game faster. IMO, a SINGLE SERVER, with your LARGEST MAP (Colorado V2) divided into play zones will not only increase play on a SINGLE SERVER, it will make load times faster (after all they don't have to log off & on to change play styles). Games like "tom clancy's : The Division" hase been doing this for 5 years & still have full servers to this day... You already are doing this with CLIFFSIDE on the TEST SERVER for building....why not INTEGRATE THAT TO YOUR OPEN WORLD SOLO MAP SERVERS?


*edit thought after the fact**
Hell you can even "rotate the zones" on the map realtime. aka make the zones DYNAMIC , instead of STATIC. You can also put a "map time limit" and ROTATE YOUR MAPS ON THE SAME SERVER (give each map 2 -3 hrs, then have the server reset & rotate..if you do this, then having MULTIPLE SERVERS (as you would want the rest rates at different times on the servers) would be ok & cost effective... You want the players to learn the maps, not just stick to one, because a tutorial on Youtube, taught them how "round up the zombies at nato like a cowboy & throw nades." The game should have "forced elements" to make them experience other parts of the game. You don't have to like PVP, but it shouldn't stop you from crossing over the map to complete a mission. Cross over mission (ones that make you travel into pvp zones [if static] should be more xp since the difficulty has been increased by requirements alone).

why LIMIT and FORCE the community to PICK ONE, when you have the chance to let us have ALL OF THEM????? IF you have 5 rotating maps on 3 SERVERS, EVERYONE will get what they want! **** I would start with 1 server doing this & see how player react... if there is an overwhelming love (because there is a waiting Queue too often) , then add 2 more!

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Although I guess my request will be probably not listened, I ask for 1 official PVE map in Survival. Only 1 map.

Lot of people talk of PVP, but I always saw Cliffside PVP map in survival.... EMPTY

Be sure a PVE map won't be empty.

Try it, you will see.

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8 hours ago, Thisisjoetv said:

why LIMIT and FORCE the community to PICK ONE, when you have the chance to let us have ALL OF THEM????? IF you have 5 rotating maps on 3 SERVERS, EVERYONE will get what they want! **** I would start with 1 server doing this & see how player react... if there is an overwhelming love (because there is a waiting Queue too often) , then add 2 more!

What would happen with players who limit play to ONLY one map ( with rotating maps)? Also from the sounds of things, farming will be difficult unless you have a private server bc pushing that many onto a server ( especially those that don't like grouping  sounds no fun).  Also, if you cause a waiting que, people wont necessarily hang around and "wait".  I know I don't now with the survival timer as it is. If not for my server, I think I would find something else to do and Im probably not the only one short on patience in waiting for a game.  Also what do you do with players who play not just certain ( whatever)  map but specific parts? Back when I spent time on maps with other people, you could count on seeing certain names at certain spots on the map bc they played there all the time.  What would happen if the map rotated and made an area a player who did PVE only did to a PVP or "co-op" area? Too many unknowns for those of us who don't enjoy PVP as much as some that are either neutral or dislike it altogether on this game. Drag them kicking and screaming into play this way or quit??

 

8 hours ago, Thisisjoetv said:

The game should have "forced elements" to make them experience other parts of the game. You don't have to like PVP, but it shouldn't stop you from crossing over the map to complete a mission.

@Sven Force players like me to "Cross PVP land" when I am not wanting to PVP, or worse not equipt to do so to "Complete a mission" … Ummm please let me know when you plan do this so I can immediately QUIT!!! You WILL NOT be able to FORCE PVE players to play PVP no matter how you dress this up!!! The only sane option for PVE ers is either buy a private server or leave.

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31 minutes ago, DNI_Adrian said:

What would happen with players who limit play to ONLY one map ( with rotating maps)? Also from the sounds of things, farming will be difficult unless you have a private server bc pushing that many onto a server ( especially those that don't like grouping  sounds no fun).  Also, if you cause a waiting que, people wont necessarily hang around and "wait".  I know I don't now with the survival timer as it is. If not for my server, I think I would find something else to do and Im probably not the only one short on patience in waiting for a game.  Also what do you do with players who play not just certain ( whatever)  map but specific parts? Back when I spent time on maps with other people, you could count on seeing certain names at certain spots on the map bc they played there all the time.  What would happen if the map rotated and made an area a player who did PVE only did to a PVP or "co-op" area? Too many unknowns for those of us who don't enjoy PVP as much as some that are either neutral or dislike it altogether on this game. Drag them kicking and screaming into play this way or quit??

 

@Sven Force players like me to "Cross PVP land" when I am not wanting to PVP, or worse not equipt to do so to "Complete a mission" … Ummm please let me know when you plan do this so I can immediately QUIT!!! You WILL NOT be able to FORCE PVE players to play PVP no matter how you dress this up!!! The only sane option for PVE ers is either buy a private server or leave.

 Why is it the players who "want SOLO PVE ONLY" that are always CRYING about PVP within the SAME MAP as the PVE??? YOU DO NOT EVEN WANT OTHER PLAYERS ON THE MAP WITH YOU...If that is SO IMPORTANT TO YOU, BUY THE GAME & RENT A SERVER!!! Look I can see why you are concerned... but you need to realize "your style of solo play on MMO" is a dying breed.. Solo play is dead and everyone can see, that all you care about is combating the solutions to the adaptation of MMO.   I will try to answer you "questions" ...

What would happen with players who limit play to ONLY one map ( with rotating maps)? 
----YOU WILL HAVE TO LEARN TO PLAY MORE THAN ONE MAP.... Why do YOU NEED TO FARM, if you are SOLO PVE??? you have PLENTY at your disposal... The ONLY REASON TO FARM IS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO INTERACT WITH OTHER PLAYERS.....This map conversion creates more interaction between players. You cannot cry about NEEDING more player interaction, while simultaneously complaining about how it is resolved.

Also, if you cause a waiting que, people wont necessarily hang around and "wait".  I know I don't now with the survival timer as it is.
--- There is no "queue" on survival servers, I load instantly...infact, they are often EMPTY, because of the Negative PVP mechanics encouraged.... Don't make up stuff, to try to shoot this idea down.
I recommended that they START with 1 server with rotating maps...if you HONESTLY THINK 1 server isn't enough then say 2 in the POLL...smh I agree, 2 would be great, this way 2 different maps are always up for the open world smashup.

Also what do you do with players who play not just certain ( whatever)  map but specific parts? Back when I spent time on maps with other people, you could count on seeing certain names at certain spots on the map bc they played there all the time. 
--- They will have to learn to adventure the MAP and become comfortable with more than one spot on the map...If you ONLY PLAY THIS GAME, to play PVE, and only PLAY NATO (for example), you are seriously limiting yourself, and are less than 1% of the loss automatically assumed should the DEVS choose to change something. Being a ZONING PLAYER (one who purposely limits themselves in a game because they refuse to learn anything after that point) within the game developing community is "normal loss." They LESS you know about the game as a player, the LESS YOU MATTER.  If they decide to REMOVE YOUR ZONE of the map, because the rest of the community asked, ...guess what??? ohh well... learn to play more than ONE zone of ONE map.

What would happen if the map rotated and made an area a player who did PVE only did to a PVP or "co-op" area? Too many unknowns for those of us who don't enjoy PVP as much as some that are either neutral or dislike it altogether on this game. Drag them kicking and screaming into play this way or quit??
--Remember, this is just an idea I brought forth. if RADIATION ZONES, can appear & reappear in different zones, then SO CAN PVP & COOP...imagine the WHOLE MAP is rendered as PVE, and then the PVP & COOP ZONES, appear and move similar to the RAD....  What would happen is that you WOULD ALSO HAVE TO HAVE MAP AWARENESS, and keep an eye on the ZONE YOU ARE IN..... if it becomes PVP, you will have to leave a bit, if you do not want the action, and come back when its gone... GOD FORBID you cannot sit in the same spot ALL DAY & wait for rare gear to respawn in the area you SAT IN ALL DAY. 

You act as if PVE is the majority in this game.... unfortunately is NOT... What if all MMO's move to this model?? BECAUSE THEY ARE... pretty soon you will have NO GAME TO PLAY IN MMO, UNTIL YOU LEARN TO PLAY PVP..

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52 minutes ago, Thisisjoetv said:

 Why is it the players who "want SOLO PVE ONLY" that are always CRYING about PVP within the SAME MAP as the PVE??? YOU DO NOT EVEN WANT OTHER PLAYERS ON THE MAP WITH YOU...If that is SO IMPORTANT TO YOU, BUY THE GAME & RENT A SERVER!!! Look I can see why you are concerned... but you need to realize "your style of solo play on MMO" is a dying breed.. Solo play is dead and everyone can see, that all you care about is combating the solutions to the adaptation of MMO.   I will try to answer you "questions" ...

What would happen with players who limit play to ONLY one map ( with rotating maps)? 
----YOU WILL HAVE TO LEARN TO PLAY MORE THAN ONE MAP.... Why do YOU NEED TO FARM, if you are SOLO PVE??? you have PLENTY at your disposal... The ONLY REASON TO FARM IS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO INTERACT WITH OTHER PLAYERS.....This map conversion creates more interaction between players. You cannot cry about NEEDING more player interaction, while simultaneously complaining about how it is resolved.

Also, if you cause a waiting que, people wont necessarily hang around and "wait".  I know I don't now with the survival timer as it is.
--- There is no "queue" on survival servers, I load instantly...infact, they are often EMPTY, because of the Negative PVP mechanics encouraged.... Don't make up stuff, to try to shoot this idea down.
I recommended that they START with 1 server with rotating maps...if you HONESTLY THINK 1 server isn't enough then say 2 in the POLL...smh I agree, 2 would be great, this way 2 different maps are always up for the open world smashup.

Also what do you do with players who play not just certain ( whatever)  map but specific parts? Back when I spent time on maps with other people, you could count on seeing certain names at certain spots on the map bc they played there all the time. 
--- They will have to learn to adventure the MAP and become comfortable with more than one spot on the map...If you ONLY PLAY THIS GAME, to play PVE, and only PLAY NATO (for example), you are seriously limiting yourself, and are less than 1% of the loss automatically assumed should the DEVS choose to change something. Being a ZONING PLAYER (one who purposely limits themselves in a game because they refuse to learn anything after that point) within the game developing community is "normal loss." They LESS you know about the game as a player, the LESS YOU MATTER.  If they decide to REMOVE YOUR ZONE of the map, because the rest of the community asked, ...guess what??? ohh well... learn to play more than ONE zone of ONE map.

What would happen if the map rotated and made an area a player who did PVE only did to a PVP or "co-op" area? Too many unknowns for those of us who don't enjoy PVP as much as some that are either neutral or dislike it altogether on this game. Drag them kicking and screaming into play this way or quit??
--Remember, this is just an idea I brought forth. if RADIATION ZONES, can appear & reappear in different zones, then SO CAN PVP & COOP...imagine the WHOLE MAP is rendered as PVE, and then the PVP & COOP ZONES, appear and move similar to the RAD....  What would happen is that you WOULD ALSO HAVE TO HAVE MAP AWARENESS, and keep an eye on the ZONE YOU ARE IN..... if it becomes PVP, you will have to leave a bit, if you do not want the action, and come back when its gone... GOD FORBID you cannot sit in the same spot ALL DAY & wait for rare gear to respawn in the area you SAT IN ALL DAY. 

You act as if PVE is the majority in this game.... unfortunately is NOT... What if all MMO's move to this model?? BECAUSE THEY ARE... pretty soon you will have NO GAME TO PLAY IN MMO, UNTIL YOU LEARN TO PLAY PVP..

By trying to force people to only play on ONE MAP, just because you think you are the greatest game tester in the world, the player base will tank. It will cause a mass exodus AWAY from NewZ. You need to stop trying to force your opinion of what a game is supposed to be like down our throats. As many different people there are playing this game, there are the same amount of styles of play. What you are wanting to do is dictate every aspect of this game. I agree with @DNI_Adrian on this point. Stop trying to make us squeeze into one map with different modes. @Sven, I hope you are taking note of this. We have had similar conversations about this very issue. The inherent issues with the game itself is a big enough hurdle to get over. If you go along with forcing people to play on only 1 server, YOU WILL KILL THE GAME. Then, when you only have a few stragglers left, how will you pay the bills? Also @Thisisjoetv, Since you are so 'new' to this forum, you have not witnessed the amount of bullying and whining that the PVP only players have engaged in all in the belief that PVE players need to either change their style of play or QUIT. From the looks of it, it sounds like you are trying to take over this game.

Like @DNI_Adrian stated, I will QUIT. As will a lot of other players.

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He's another play my way or else type. @CampersRUs Seriously debating letting my server go and walking. I don't want a damn thing to do with sponsoring this BS with my money.  Regardless if PVE is the majority or not,  Im not spending money to help this game if its going to continue to PANDER to him and his mindset. He can foot the bill. 

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3 hours ago, DNI_Adrian said:

@Sven Force players like me to "Cross PVP land" when I am not wanting to PVP, or worse not equipt to do so to "Complete a mission" … Ummm please let me know when you plan do this so I can immediately QUIT!!! You WILL NOT be able to FORCE PVE players to play PVP no matter how you dress this up!!! The only sane option for PVE ers is either buy a private server or leave.

I agree totally here. If this game goes it the direction Thisisjoetv is pushing for I'm outta here! You should NOT force players to do anything!!!

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2 hours ago, Thisisjoetv said:

What if all MMO's move to this model?? BECAUSE THEY ARE... pretty soon you will have NO GAME TO PLAY IN MMO, UNTIL YOU LEARN TO PLAY PVP..

That's the wonder of the console games... I don't HAVE to play against anyone I don't choose to, I have plenty of options there. …..and yet you wonder why games via PC are dying. Choked out by consoles. I was looking for a game to play when I found this one  and I chose to play this game, and I chose to spend money to help keep it going, but there is a host of other titles to choose from in a very competitive industry.  

Ive stated this on other posts as well. I play pvp ON OTHER GAMES. The whole draw to me with this one was that I could play on my PC and I didn't HAVE to play PVP to enjoy it. This play "my way or else" mentality will sink this game. Not that you care, you haven't really got anything invested beyond a few bucks to buy your premium and a small amount of time.  Oh and to answer your question, I will go back to the other games, trusted titles that were, and are PVE and have no interest in forcing players to "Change" just to play. 

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19 minutes ago, DNI_Adrian said:

He's another play my way or else type. @CampersRUs Seriously debating letting my server go and walking. I don't want a damn thing to do with sponsoring this BS with my money.  Regardless if PVE is the majority or not,  Im not spending money to help this game if its going to continue to PANDER to him and his mindset. He can foot the bill. 

 

17 minutes ago, Katryna247 said:

I agree totally here. If this game goes it the direction Thisisjoetv is pushing for I'm outta here! You should NOT force players to do anything!!!

I would be right behind you BOTH. This is ridiculous.

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